Interview: Martyn Leaper of The Minders

Martyn Leaper is not a rock star; there is no cocksure swagger, no drunken debauchery, no mysteriously-provoked fisticuffs in his world. He is as unassuming a melodic genius as you might imagine, and his meek chic blends in neatly with the sea of satchel bag and trucker cap-wearing hipsters who celebrate his oeuvre.
But behind the soft Brit accent and thick glasses is a mind filled with brilliant imagery, stirring melodies and a drive to create that cannot be dampened. The Minders have never been a terribly profitable enterprise, and even bearing the Elephant 6 name has granted only marginal fame among those who know what Elephant 6 is/was. But here they are, nearly ten years into their career, and they have managed to release their best album yet, It’s a Bright, Guilty World.
It’s a warm summer evening in Portland, and Martyn and the band are relaxing at a bar just steps away from the venue where they’ll be playing in a couple of hours. Over a couple of beers, Martyn relates to me the past, present and future of his band and how it is they came to live in the city of microbrews and strip clubs.
Harmonium: So tell me about It’s a Bright, Guilty World. How did it come about, and how were you able to channel so many different facets of your sound into one album?
Leaper: Well, we did this experimental EP in 2004 that was kind of out there for us, and after that we wanted to build on the sounds we explored, but in increments. So we recorded a whole bunch of ideas that were all over the place and picked the best of what was there. The record itself came together pretty haphazardly. A year ago the album was done but in listening to the tracks, we scrapped a bunch, almost half. It just wasn’t flowing as a record. So we took a step back, recorded a few more, and rounded out the album with some songs that some of us wrote on our own.
Harmonium: Like what?
Leaper: “Saturday Morning” for one. I pretty much did the whole thing on a 4-track reel to reel—an old TEAC—at 5 a.m. The time was just right, and that tape hiss is the sound of the 4-track itself. I know I could probably clean it up and get rid of that hiss but I just think it sounds better that way.
Harmonium: It really does, like the hiss becomes an instrument itself. That lo-fi sound is kind of a signature of the whole Elephant 6 movement. What was it like being a part of that?
Leaper: It was a pretty great experience. The whole community was just so supportive and Robert was of course a big part of how we got started as a band. Our whole career really started as a collection of 7” singles, and Robert started that with us. But the business has changed a lot since the days of Elephant 6.
Harmonium: How so? Are you referring to the rise of digital distribution?
Leaper: Well, it’s great to have all these new ways to get your name out there—MySpace, mp3s, things like that—but with so many people making great music, it’s tough to get a deal and have your record put out and promoted.
Harmonium: So what bands or artists did you listen to growing up?
Leaper: I grew up on a lot of the big music of the 70s and 80s, and I spent a lot of time in record shops in England learning how to appreciate vinyl. Probably my first favorite band was ELO. I saw them outside Munich and they were just amazing. From there I got into Madness, The Specials, Echo & the Bunnymen, Blancmange…
Harmonium: So what was your first jump from listening to playing?
Leaper: The first band I formed was in ’84. I was in the U.S. by that time and we called ourselves The Procession. We were just a mish-mash of The Doors and Joy Division. We were terrible.
Harmonium: Then what?
Leaper: After that I went to art school, but I didn’t really have a plan. I didn’t think of art as something I could do to make a living, I just loved doing it. Around the time I was in art school I fell in with a number of different bands…one was a lot like XTC, and I met Robert [Schneider] through that. At the time I thought of recording as a black or white thing; either you did it in a studio or you didn’t do it at all. I really didn’t think of a 4-track as a viable way of making something worthwhile. But then I saw Robert with a 4-track and all these toy instruments layering sounds on sounds and I thought, “that’s it, that’s what I want.”
Harmonium: So all that was in Colorado, right? When did you decide to make the move to Portland?
Leaper: It was a combination of things really. We were living in Denver and we had these insane neighbors that made it really hard to live…and then we come home one day to find our building has been condemned. So we were getting ready for a tour with our old label SpinArt anyway and we came up here. The tour fell apart in the end but we actually had one of our best shows ever up here with Sunset Valley. We were impressed by the weather, the look, the scene, the bands…and living in Denver had just become so stifling. So we made the move and we’ve been here for about eight years. In fact, I just graduated from PSU [Portland State University] a few weeks ago.
Harmonium: Congratulations!
Leaper: Thanks. It’s just a really supportive scene here and it’s a good place for us.
Harmonium: So what’s next for the band?
Leaper: Well, we have a B-side album in the works with the remnants of the Bright Guilty sessions, and Mark has written an album’s worth of song skeletons. We’ll probably flesh those out over the next tour and have some finished new material soon enough.
Harmonium: How soon can we expect the new material to be released?
Leaper: It all depends on how the album does. From that we’ll know when and what the next record will be. There’s a few fingers in the pie, but Future Farmer is where we will most likely stay. They’ve been a great label for us and at this stage we just feel lucky that we can keep making records and touring. Trends come and go, but it seems there’s always room for a pop record.
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